tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801479.post112433059443391873..comments2023-10-08T07:35:25.126-05:00Comments on insight-less:: Devaluing a MIT PhD like no one else...Benhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07563956581194180991noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801479.post-1124489962488632752005-08-19T17:19:00.000-05:002005-08-19T17:19:00.000-05:00I agree that unemployment can be unevenly distribu...I agree that unemployment can be unevenly distributed in other countries as well, but if it isn't, then it would undermine the degree to which the U.S. economy seems superior. I'm sure this would be a fairly easy thing to find out for an industrious person, but I don't know. <BR/><BR/>I think there may be an error in Andrew's last comment. He determines a country's capitalist or socialist idenitity by the percentage of it's GDP that is raised by private industry vs. publicly owned industry. That seems like a legitimate way of making the distinction. But it is incorrect or misleading to then imply that the UK and Ireland are capitalist by citing their percentage of public SPENDING. The percentage of GDP raised by public industry and the percentage of GDP SPENT by public industry are completely different things.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462812499518903569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801479.post-1124483484922515622005-08-19T15:31:00.000-05:002005-08-19T15:31:00.000-05:00I don't see where Andrew makes the claim that the ...I don't see where Andrew makes the claim that the French are something other than capitalists. I do see where he describes Ireland and the UK as "hard working capitalist nations" and the French as "the French." The inference seems clear enough; the French have regulated hard work out of their ecomomic equation.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I would like to see someone clarify the terms "socialist" and "capitalist" in this context. Every country that enacts some manner of social program (welfare, unemployment, food stamps) could be called "socialist," couldn't it? Unfortunately, it would seem to boil down to degree and by my reckoning, that doesn't allow for very clear categorization. <BR/><BR/>Re: the sub-group contention, isn't it going to work similarly with all countries? For instance, immigrant populations accross the board tend to have higher unemployment numbers. What's the point in parsing up America's unemployment numbers if you don't do it for other countries and compare them? Both France and America have relatively high immigration numbers so why don't we start with those? If we're going to compare our successes, we have to be sure and not cherry-pick information.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563956581194180991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801479.post-1124476762492709262005-08-19T13:39:00.000-05:002005-08-19T13:39:00.000-05:00I forgot to make one point. While our unemploymen...I forgot to make one point. While our unemployment rate as a nation is 5%, it is much higher for certain sub-groups within the population (minorities, people in certain regions, etc). Again, this shows that statistics can be misleading. Even if the average unemployment rate is 5%, what is the standard deviation of that rate with respect to various subgroups? <BR/> I'm on the 5th day of my high-intensity math boot camp, a requirement for my admission to school, and I'm starting to dream in equations.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462812499518903569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801479.post-1124476378825247642005-08-19T13:32:00.000-05:002005-08-19T13:32:00.000-05:00Why does the Uk, with it's nationalized health car...Why does the Uk, with it's nationalized health care, qualify as a capitalist country when France does not? Obviously, France's economy is not marxist; it has a substantial degree of freedom, and the U.S. has certain regulations on it's markets as well as different entitlement programs. You seem to want to draw a radical line between "socialist" and "capitalist" countries. What criteria do you use for drawing that line? <BR/> I'd also like to point out that 10% unemployment, historically speaking, isn't all that high. Ours is 5%, which is about as low as any economy will permit. As far as your happiness index goes, as my math class discussed this morning, correlation is not causation. There are certainly myriad possible explanations for the fact that the French tend to be more depressed than people in other countries. Statistics are only as good as their underlying assumptions, as you pointed out about Krugman's argument.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462812499518903569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7801479.post-1124344528740451032005-08-18T00:55:00.000-05:002005-08-18T00:55:00.000-05:00The reason he doesn't site empirical measures for ...The reason he doesn't site empirical measures for standard of living is precisely because his argument is based on the contention that qualitative differences (i.e., time with the family) can be assessed when describing standard of living. Krugman isn't trying to contend that France is making more money than us..he's making the utterly outlandish claim that non-monetary, non-quantifiable things can make a poor person just as happy, if not happier than a richer person. Things like time with one's family, health-care security, etc, etc. And while I don't tend to embrace "the good ol' days" type thinking, I do think it's pretty clear that the relationship between happiness and wealth is, at best, modestly proportionate. Lawyers are some of the most depressed people in the world, for example. In other words, Krugman is just asking what I think is a very important question for any person to think about..what constitutes success?Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462812499518903569noreply@blogger.com